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Old Wed, 04-09-2008, 10:52 PM   #141
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Quick question about the game since this is my first time playing a visual novel...

I skimmed through the flowchart and some paths, such as branching off to UBW, can only be accessed after you finish Fate. Do you have to start the game all over again or can you load from where the story branches off (ie. achievements don't get erased by save/load)?
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For Fate, it's the very first path, you can't skip.

For Unlimited Blade Works, you can start around the third day just before Tohsaka reach Emiya the household and get attacked by Saber.

For Heaven's Feel you will most likely have to start from the very beginning, because you have to choose the options related to Sakura right from the start.


But do not worry, you have a choice to Skip entire scenes that you already read, so even if you restart from the very beginning every time, you can just skip and gets where you want to be in less than a minutes.

This is basically the FAQ, so if you don't want to rely on the flowchart, you can try this.
(The Heaven's feel path is in Engrish because it has yet to be translated by MirrorMoon.)
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Fate (Saber)

I'll go and help Sakura.
I'll go and help out the student council.
I'll take Sakura home.
I'll do my daily routine at the dojo.
(Don't stop her. )
...Fight. (... Revoke the Command Spell. - Tiger Dojo 1)
Save Saber...! (Run away with Tohsaka...! - Tiger Dojo 2)
Ask about the serious stuff.
...All right. Let's cooperate. (...I'm sorry, but I can't. - Tiger Dojo 16)
(Save here for Tiger Dojo 13)
Which heroine is Saber?
Go and meet Tohsaka as arranged.
About Lancer.
Talk to Rider.
Don't fight. (Fight. - Tiger Dojo 3)
I want to know about Saber before she became a Servant.
I want to know why Saber is fighting.
Go and visit the park.
Fuji-Nee, where's my gift.
Go and get Tohsaka.
There's no need to stop...!
...I can't match her. (Beat her before I get beaten...! - Tiger Dojo 4)
Summon Saber...! (No, I can't use my Command Spell...! - Tiger Dojo 5)
I have to follow Saber...! (...Wait here and stand by. - Tiger Dojo 6)
Run to Saber.
...I can't do that. (...I'll have to nod for now. - Tiger Dojo 7)
...I'm in no condition to fight. I'll sit in the chair and pretend I'm tied up.
I'm worried about Saber.
I'll provide backup with the bow...!
Don't use it! (...Is that the only option? - Tiger Dojo 8)
Protect Ilya.
That's fine, but why are you exactly on time today?
Ask about the projection magic.
Go out with Saber. (Let Saber take care of Caster and protect the other two here. - Tiger Dojo 9)
Believe in Tohsaka.
Don't do it, Saber...! (...That timing, she got it...! - Tiger Dojo 10)
Stand up. (Don't stand up. - Tiger Dojo 11)
Go down the stairs. (Go back home. - Tiger Dojo 12)
...Even so, Tohsaka.
...Have a strategy meeting. (Spend time with Saber. - Tiger Dojo 14)
...Give Saber back her Sheath.

Fate True End.

(Load 0)
...Where did you get those clothes?
Explain things to Sakura.
About Berserker.
...Keep away from dangerous things.
Don't fight.
Her reason for fighting. I want to know why she seeks the Holy Grail.
(or - I want to know about Saber before she became a Servant.)
A super move even a monkey could understand.
(If or - A super move even a crab can use)
Go straight home
Apple won't do. Eat some Mandarins, Fuji-Nee.
Wait quietly.
There's no need to stop...!
...I can't match her.
If I can get Saber to help me...!
I have to follow Saber...!
Follow Shinji.
...I can't do that.
...How about that bed?
I'm worried about Tohsaka.
...What's the point?
Don't use it!
Entrust her to the church.
No way. We're fasting today.
Silence is good.
Go out with Saber.
Believe in Tohsaka.
Don't do it, Saber...!
Stand up.
Go down the stairs. (Tiger Dojo 13)



Unlimited Blade Works (Rin)

I'll go and finish my daily routine.
I'll go to work.
I'll play with Fuji-Nee.
Stop her.
...Follow them. (...Stay here./...Don't go. - Tiger Dojo 15)
Bring back saber.
Show Saber around school.
I'll go see how Saber's doing.
Jump back to the hallway...! (Jump to the stairs...! - Tiger Dojo 16)
Can I admit defeat against Tohsaka...?
I can pull out this "nail" in my right arm...! (Use the Command Spell. - Tiger Dojo 17)
I can't say for sure.
I'll go tell Saber that I'm home before the sun sets.
...She's after me. I'll give up and go out there.
Use the command spell to call for Saber.
...It'll be pointless, so I guess I won't ask. (...I guess I'll ask him. - Tiger Dojo 18)
(Saving 1)
Meat's on sale today. I'll make a huge meal to make Saber happy.
It's too dangerous. Stop Tohsaka.
Protect Tohsaka...! (Go help Saber...! - Tiger Dojo 19)
I'll go talk to Saber at the dojo.
I'll make Japanese food in that case. Actually, I'll go take it out on the culprit.
Look inside.
Refuse. (Obey. - Tiger Dojo 20)
Meet up with Tohsaka. (Go to the church for advice. - Tiger Dojo 21)
...Not yet. I can't act so recklessly. * (...I'll go out, I can give Tohsaka an opening now...! - Tiger Dojo 22)
Help her.
We can't do this by ourselves. We'll cooperate with other Masters.
...Stop the man...! (...Restrain myself. - Tiger Dojo 23)
...I don't mind, but under one condition.
...What's wrong with stopping them if I can?
Go to the dojo to check up on Saber.
...No way, I can't give up so easily...! (...I'll at least take him with me...! - Tiger Dojo 24)

Unlimited Blade Works GoodEnd
(sunny day)


(Load 1)
I'm worried about Sakura. I'll go to the Matou Household.
It's too dangerous. Stop Tohsaka.
Protect Tohsaka...!
I'll go talk to Saber at the dojo.
I'll make Japanese food in that case. Actually, I'll go take it out on the culprit.
Look inside.
Refuse.
Meet up with Tohsaka. (Go to the church for advice. - Tiger Dojo 21)
...Not yet. I can't act so recklessly.
Help her.
We can't do this by ourselves. We'll cooperate with other Masters.
...Stop the man...!
...I don't mind, but under one condition.
...What's wrong with stopping them if I can? ... What good is stopping them?
Go over strategy with Tohsaka.
...No way, I can't give up so easily...!

Unlimited Blade Works TrueEnd
(Brilliant Years)



Heaven's Feel (Sakura)


I'll go and help Sakura.
I'll go to work.
I'll take Sakura home.
I'll make one more side dish since Sakura's coming.
I'm worried about Sakura.
...Fight.
Save Saber...!

To new Miyako
It consults about the thing of cherry blossoms. [Yo, uka] go The smell of danger, to ..(.. classroom to see the said �¨ appearance in me ..dash.. �¨ �E�E�E The lie divides into �¨2 kind bat that endures �¨ that goes shopping outside �¨ that doesn't attach)(No, It worries about cherry blossoms ....) and bat end 25 by bat end 26(Go it round new Miyako).
I will not be hated.
It says for myself.
Let's go to see the appearance.
It doesn't tell a lie.
Let's go shopping on the outside.
It endures it.
No, It worries about cherry blossoms.
The fact that puts the apology and says is heard.
(..page.. 3-2-Gallery Menu Heavens Feel 1)
The examination way of [yanagihoratera].
The saver is believed and waited for. (bat end [Reinoro] .... is used. )[De] (1-4 on Gallery Menu Fate 1 page 3-1) Collection (It stabs at [****] �E�E�E) and bat end 27.
Grandpa's room, ..bite.. ?
It is not good in the I am alone. If you do not borrow Enzaka's hand (... No, This is my one problem) and bat end 28.
Yes.
Yes.
¥¥¥Do you do? (the reason is that that becomes ally of �¨ cherry blossoms that there is no other way that cannot do �¨ anything)[De] bat end 31
¥¥¥There is a housekeeper -san, too. In case of a soupcon approximately �E�E�E
Enzaka's hand is pulled -. (Shut eyes and, Stab at the rider) and bat end 29.
The reason is that that becomes ally of cherry blossoms
(�E�E�E The crime avenger, It puts and pass it) and bat end 30.
It is considerably love.
You should go to see the appearance in a hurry. (�E�E�E It is necessary to remain in the this place. )[De] bat end 32
It finishes defending [iriya]. (Enzaka is brought back �E�E�E. )[De] bat end 33
[Iriya] I wonder?
It solves it.
No, It gives priority to the visit of cherry blossoms and [yo, u].
¥¥¥It nodded.
It receives it. (Do not receive it. )[De] bat end 34
¥¥¥It alone cannot be done. (Put it on the this hand. )[De] bat end 35
It returns in a hurry.
Cherry blossoms are helped. [Iriya] is brought back. (Our defeats. )[De] bat end 36
It nods. (Refuse. )[De] bat end 37
[Iriya] is brought back.
¥¥¥The answer at one time is said. (Run away outside the storehouse �E�E�E. )[De] bat end 38
Is it an ally of cherry blossoms to the last minute?
It still waits one's chance. (Strike it with the saver each other �E�E�E. )[De] bat end 39

(save 2)



¥¥¥The this arm is rejected and it lowers. (�E�E�E The saver is helped. )[De] bat end 40
¥¥¥Is it nice, And,
Heavens Feel TrueEnd (Return in spring).

(loading 2)
¥¥¥The this arm is rejected and it lowers.
It does.
Heavens Feel Normal End (Sakura's dream)
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Quick question about the game since this is my first time playing a visual novel...

I skimmed through the flowchart and some paths, such as branching off to UBW, can only be accessed after you finish Fate. Do you have to start the game all over again or can you load from where the story branches off (ie. achievements don't get erased by save/load)?
i think after the last patch there is a flowchart in your fate/stay night folder now..it tells you which actions are to choose if you want to play UBW etc.

you could just start the game again after finishing Fate and it will ask you "do you wish to skip XXXXX?" then click -> Yes and the next scene will begin, if you alrdy read through that too the same question weill appear again... if the scene includes a decision you will get the chance to answer it after skipping the scene..

so it will take like ~1 minute to get into each scenario
or ~2 minutes to get the other ending (good ending - true ending) because when you were friendly with rin in UBW you get the true(?) ending and then you can play it again -> skip everything -> be friendly to saber -> and you get the good(?) ending

btw in my case it was pretty usefull to reread some scenes, because some decisions and statements are more easy to understand once you played through a scenario (but it wasn't really worth it xD, i just happened to get the voices from RN so it was fun to play it again)

ah and yes you are right "achievements don't get erased by save/load" well they get erased if you load from somewhere near the end to a scene @ the beginning but i think thats obvious..

(the status and weapon section in the MAIN MENU however still saves what you have achieved even if you didn't save it)
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HF translation is no longer IDLE!
http://mirrormoon.org/projects/fate_stay_night
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HF translation Progress: 50% (1980/3800kb)

Day # / % complete (total text size)

Day 04: 100% (280kb)
Day 05: 100% (240kb)
Day 06: 100% (210kb)
Day 07: 100% (230kb)
Day 08: 100% (220kb)
Day 09: 100% (460kb)
Day 10: 100% (340kb)
Day 11: 10% (280kb)
Day 12: 0% (180kb)
Day 13: 0% (190kb)
Day 14: 0% (190kb)
Day 15: 0% (500kb)
Day 16: 0% (350kb)
Epilogues: 0% (120kb)

4/25: MAW2 editing is finished, and Farland is still in insertion phase. So back to HF translation for me. Now, where did I leave off... GAH, HSCENE, DAMMIT!!(T T)

And they put another troll image at the bottom of the page again.
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Heh. That joke won't ever die or even get old, I tell you.

I still don't know if I'm even interested in playing the game following the HF route. Initially I was interested in the Fate route, after the anime. But during that route I actually became more interested in UBW. However, during neither route of those two did HF gain my interest at all. But who knows, maybe I will still look at it. It's such an exceptional game even though it would hurt to play it ignoring both Saber and Rin.
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Ya i can't stand sakura... but HF seems to be very sad and shirou seems to be a real badass there. (not a whiner like he is in fate or UBW :P)
And I want to see True-Assassin, so I'm pretty sure that i'll like it even though it will hurt to ignore saber and to ~~~~~ her. (you probably know what I mean if you alrdy read through it a bit, the picture of this scene looks so awesome)

I wonder what Gilgamesh does in HF
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I liked UBW much more than Fate, but you kinda have to play Fate first since UBW is sort of like an extension of that storyline.

Btw, the hentai scenes are really out of place.
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They could be out of place, considering the whole story and even the mood and atmosphere in general, but for some peculiar reason, maybe especially since they are so out of place, I was really looking forward to them. Because I'm not really interested in HF, I guess wondering what kind of bizarre hentai scenes it might present is a strong point of why I still might play it.

I have by now played a few visual novels, and I have to say the H scenes in FSN are totally out there. With Shirou the Platonic Magician they are pure golden comedy. They are generally comedy in any h game (just like in h anime (I only watch hentai in general because it's so bloody hilarious)), but FSN totally sweeps the board.
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I don't know how literal the translations for the h-scenes are, but yeah they're quite hilarious.

Tsukihime is pretty...0_o...too. I still have the Hisui and Kohaku routes left. Those should make for interesting scenarios.
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From what i heard Tsukihime's H-scenes are a bit extreme ~~; (not only because of the partners having sex there, pedo,necro and rape @ once yay)

Hmm whats to say against the h-scenes in FSN... i didn't like the UBW one because it was like "hey the story is nearly finished and we didn't have sex yet, want to do it?"

But the H-scenes in fate were actually pretty "good".. I have to laugh @ the descriptions a bit, but I think thats the case in every book which has a love-scene in it.

Dunno but it really expressed: "shirou<3saber forever" and it made it even more sad that they have to separate once the war is over. (and it was sad enough even without those scenes)
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From what i heard Tsukihime's H-scenes are a bit extreme ~~; (not only because of the partners having sex there, pedo,necro and rape @ once yay)
I haven't encountered any of that in Tsukihime. There was one scene in the Arcueid route that was semi-rape, but nothing extreme. There's no necro/pedo/other weird stuff.
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Isn't the protagonist Shiki?

i read something that he has sex with a vampire his little sister and that there was something like a rape scene (or agressive sex scene)
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Yes, but he doesn't cut his partners in the process.
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The only pseudo pedo scene in Tsukihime actually happen in Kagetsu Tohya.
With her,

(Character: Ren)

Other than that, in the main story line, there is nothing like that.


As for HF...
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...7008085112.jpg
(That's not Rin, saying more would be spoiler)

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Is that from the Plus disk? (Tsukihime)
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I said it was from Kagetsu Tohya.. Not Plus-disk. It's another expansion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kagetsu_Tohya
(The english patch is on Beast's lair, latest version is 0.5.2)

Kagetsu came after Plus-Disk and takes some elements from it, like Akira Seo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsukihime_Plus-Disc

So If you are planning to read Kagetsu Tohya, read Plus-Disk before.

Tsukibako here: (Tsukihime / Plus+Disk / Kagetsu Tohya)
http://www.torrentz.com/a0fe0293ca61...144d5a04f6a263
(They say Plus-Disk, but it's actually Plus+Disk, I got it and it has the extra stories Geccha 2 and Kinoko Meisaku Jikkenjyou)

After that you can start Melty Blood.

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Hmmm, I don't know what to think of Tsukihime... the story sounds so great... but the looks of the characters are a bit scary..

grllll....I just don't know if its worth to test it :/
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If you liked the FSN game, you'll most likely enjoy Tsukihime as well. Both being typical Type-Moon games, they have a lot in common.
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I think Hisui from Tsukihime was the basis for the Saber character design.

And Taiga is Arcueid.
Tohsaka is Akiha (plus a chest).
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